Transcript of February 4, 2024 Town Hall

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Natalia Shorten: Like either.

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Natalia Shorten: The staff

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Margie Hilton: I don’t know. I don’t know what to do here.

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Margie Hilton: I don’t know how to get this part on.

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Natalia Shorten: If you are online, please mute your lines.

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Margie Hilton: What

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Natalia Shorten: you’re online, please mute your zoom.

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Margie Hilton: Then

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Margie Hilton: mute, hit, mute, hit, mute.

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Natalia Shorten: I was trying to figure out how we can do that. But I don’t know.

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Natalia Shorten: Nice way to meet all our new neighbors, isn’t it?

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Natalia Shorten: Yeah, let me do that.

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Natalia Shorten: Yeah, I looked for it, but I don’t know if you could show me I would

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thank you.

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Natalia Shorten: And you know the key’s open.

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Natalia Shorten: Did you hear me?

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Natalia Shorten: We’re gonna get started in a minute. I just wanted people to be aware, and that

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Natalia Shorten: thank you for coming. I know it’s an important meeting for the whole community, and I really appreciate being here to get information.

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Natalia Shorten: 36 year. I’ve been involved in the service district for over 30 years when I moved here and I love this community, and that’s why I’m here.

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Natalia Shorten: I don’t get paid a lot of money, but I get a lot of work, and it’s it’s important that we all work together as neighbors and know why we’re here today. We’re here because we love this community. We don’t wanna move it. We wanna make sure that we maintain it and keep it for ourselves

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Natalia Shorten: and the next generation. People generally don’t move, and the kids generally want to come back. So we have to keep that.

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Natalia Shorten: So one of the reasons we’re here is to discuss a new tax measure that will be on the ballot in March.

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Natalia Shorten: and what we wanted to do explain is, explain how we got here, why we’re here and why it’s important. So while first of all wanted to welcome you all, and we got the ground rules. The ground rules are hosted around here, and these are the ground rules. I really think it’s important that we

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Natalia Shorten: that we have the ground rules and follow them. It’s really important to be respectful. There are different opinions. And it’s okay. Everybody’s entitled to an opinion.

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Natalia Shorten: and everyone. It should be respectful, you know, booing. Just relax and enjoy, get information. I know it’s an important and it should be stressful information. But it’s really important for everyone. Thanks.

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Natalia Shorten: So take a look at them. I wanted to start with.

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Natalia Shorten: You know how we got here. First of all, we expired bond measures. Dnf, 2,001 to 2,022.

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Natalia Shorten: We’re really focused on 2 areas. We’re focused on the South. We go the south levy and they were focused on sediment, removal, or dredging, and those were both expired as of last 2 years ago, 19 2,022. The bond funding originally asked for was 8.2. We only got about 5 million, because bonds cost a lot of money within recording, and you lose 40% of the money.

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Natalia Shorten: But we watch this happen, and we’re not happy about it. But we reached out to the community and discussed it. So you’ll see that later. The next item is the operating budget. We have an income of $620,000. Sounds like a lot of money. I wish I had that at home, but it’s not enough. Our expenses are close to that 617,000, and this is what it covers. Things that are not covered by measure by the new ballot measure in any way.

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Natalia Shorten: and they’re not covered by

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Natalia Shorten: parcel tax D, next is parcel tax d. Again, we have an income of 541 to 20. And we have expenses. We’re about 1.5 million. So we’re about a million short. And this takes care of small maintenance projects like the north, lagoon maintenance trend workloads, waterways, staff marine utilities, security. Again, this is not covered by measure. G measure. G is.

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Traci Lanier: Yeah. I thought I thought of it. So, please.

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Traci Lanier: I hope so. If you’re impressed, thank you

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Natalia Shorten: can hear you.

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Natalia Shorten: Laurie. Thank you.

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Natalia Shorten: Measure G is to accommodate infrastructure repairs to the locks and gates, the levees, lagoons, the creek sediment, removal and relocation and management. So the new term for dredging is

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Natalia Shorten: sediment, removal. relocation and restoration. That’s how we’re gonna get money from the Federal government, the State government, and other. So it’s a total of about 31.5 million over 20 years.

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Natalia Shorten: So I just want to go through the next slides quickly. It’s it just basically shows you that we are driving. And we keep driving.

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Carin Gruwell: This is the screen.

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Yeah, baby clothes

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Matt: that’d be great.

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Natalia Shorten: And then this is the next slide. So we go from. We go to the last. This is a picture of our last.

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Timothy Corriero: He then discovered they came actually from the

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Linda Pollack: Please mute your.

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Natalia Shorten: and as a result.

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Natalia Shorten: we need to spend over 6.5 million dollars to main. Replay them piece by piece.

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Natalia Shorten: we and you’ll see the the legitimate projects listed on the boards, and they are listed on the website of each area, and how much we estimate upon. We didn’t do the estimate alone. We had a marine and engineering company help us establish what the cost would be for each item that is listed in measure G, and we are bound to to follow those projects.

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Natalia Shorten: Yeah, I’m with gonna get questions. And again. after after this presentation. Thank you. After locks we have levies, repairs.

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Natalia Shorten: levies, break levies sync. We need to maintain them. So, even though we’ve done levy repair already. We now have to raise them, not just because of Z level rise, but because they literally sink.

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Natalia Shorten: And as a result we have to constantly maintain them. And that’s why Measure D was established to help us have some money to maintain. But it’s not adequate to do the entire job. So that’s why we have 4 million dollar plus of levy repairs, and and we haven’t armored our whole levy. We ran out of money before we ran out of Levy.

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Natalia Shorten: so we continue to go and refine and armor them and raise them and keep them maintained.

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Natalia Shorten: And we are also

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Natalia Shorten: in the process of transferring the levies to our ownership, because the South, this, the State coastal conservancy presently owns the proportion of the levy, and we want the levy to be owned by us, so we can maintain because we have to maintain it. But we’re not gonna maintain it if we don’t own it. So that’s in the process right now.

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Natalia Shorten: is lagoons and flood control. So the lagoons need constant maintenance. They need constant care, and they also need to improve blood control. We do not have a way to get water out of the north Lagoon without opening our locks. We used to have a pipe that goes between the North and south lagoon under Almerke Boulevard, because there’s a difference in elevation. The north lagoon is higher than the south lagoon.

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Natalia Shorten: Before the lock went in. They used to lower the water in the north, looking for storms by releasing it through the pipe. It’s underground. We’d like to restore that pipe. So we have a secondary way of releasing water, because right now the tide is 7 foot plus

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Natalia Shorten: at 7 4 it starts and overtopping our north lagoon block. We need to raise a lot when we renovate the lives we’re going to do analysis and studies engineering wide to see how we can raise them to protect us better from flooding.

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Natalia Shorten: So it’s really important. If we need to get close. We have that in there, and in the measure, because they are really helpful to help us in emergency situation.

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Natalia Shorten: Another item is the Nevada Creek bus control and restoration. The approach here is that we really need to work together with all the agencies to go through the whole creek and watershed, otherwise it will not work. We cannot just stretch a little piece of it and expect it not to fill in, so we need a a different approach, and using nature

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Natalia Shorten: as a partner, is critical, and that means restoring a lot of the tidal Mars plant all over on our creek to help, not only with blood control, but to help with reed, invigorate the creek and is really critical. And it’s the only watershed in the entire Bay area that has the land to do this. And that’s why we’re expecting a lot of money from and support from the government, because they want to support natural system, not

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Natalia Shorten: mechanical dredging as an antidote. So we can work. We already hired a Grant writer.

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Natalia Shorten: and we’re partnering with additional grant funding with the Federal agencies. But we’re also joining the Naval Strategic Planning Group, which is a new group of multiple agencies that will help to work together to get grants and be able to help get the restore the creek and the watermelon

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Natalia Shorten: next is this is the watershed. It’s you know. It’s literally the largest watershed in Marin County.

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Natalia Shorten: and you can see a lot of open space. And that’s how we’re from Stanford right all the way out for the bay. We need to to restore this. So it functions better. Next is management cost because of management cost engineering costs and trucking costs and permitting is going to be expensive and time consuming. To get this done. This will not happen in a year.

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Natalia Shorten: This will make several years just to design, approve, and permits and construction on any of these projects. Particularly, we would start with a lot. They’re the most important aspect of our community. However, we will not stop there. We want, we need to take a holistic view of helping every piece of this community

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Natalia Shorten: measure. A funding is something we receive by fighting with the county to be included in a quarter per cent. Parcel tax, which is funding only park improvements. This is how we funded the Bocce courts.

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Natalia Shorten: the tennis courts, the pick of all course, all the exercise equipment around the community, and how we hope to do more than that by providing unified and community wide access to the lagoons, to our park system. It is not what developed gap. And we’re going to reach out. This is all based on reaching out to the community for support of these ideas. There are many ways to spend the money. But we’re not going to be using measure G money for this. We’re going to be using park money.

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Natalia Shorten: and we already got a grant for one $177,457 from the State of California parks, and Rec.

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Natalia Shorten: Only to be used on parks.

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Natalia Shorten: so that helps us not deplete the operating budget, and not deplete or and impact any of our measures which are for infrastructure other than that.

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Natalia Shorten: This is Measure G language. I just want you to be aware that we started around 2,800 parts a year, based with bonds and

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Natalia Shorten: partial text mix. We looked at it, we presented, and we set multiple meetings here, 6 meetings, public meetings, outreach drop off donuts, and we tried to listen to everybody that came in.

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Natalia Shorten: and everyone that came to that.

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Natalia Shorten: Oh, no!

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Natalia Shorten: So we’ll be this. This is that, you know.

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Natalia Shorten: once you’re done.

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Natalia Shorten: Alright, alright! Is that better? No.

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Natalia Shorten: I think it’s written better. Thanks.

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Natalia Shorten: Hello.

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Natalia Shorten: Okay. Sorry I was. I was following.

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Natalia Shorten: So

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Natalia Shorten: this is a partial tax that brings it about 1.263-60-0000, I with the first year, and it rises up 2 and a half percent everywhere. The reason we did. This was not just inflation or escalation in cost. But we work backwards. If we’re going to need this much money, how do we get it? And with the lowest possible number for the community, and this is what we came back with it. It earns about enough money by raising it 2 and a half percent.

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Natalia Shorten: It earns enough money to cover the 31.5 million dollars and cost 1,800 instead of 2,800 a year.

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Natalia Shorten: That means it’s a hundred 50 a month per month.

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Natalia Shorten: So the next just goes over. This is language. This is a statement of permits. We are legally obligated and followed, and only do these projects with this money.

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Natalia Shorten: the locks and gates of levees, lagoons, the moats, communities, open spaces and flood control, piping and community centre. These are just part of the list. They are listed on the resolution, and they are listed on the ballot measure. We are legally bound by these projects just like a bond.

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Natalia Shorten: And we are also

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Natalia Shorten: providing oversight with 12 individuals in the community that represents each part of the community that meet a minimum 3 times a year to oversee all projects, to make sure that they can be approved and recommended to the board.

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Natalia Shorten: And this this is important, because these are things that we didn’t do not have to do. This is things we put into the measure to force us to do them, so that you would feel more comfortable, and I would feel more comfortable as a resident. That there are controls there aren’t. There is accountability. There’s management of the funds

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Natalia Shorten: would also be, we would provide an independent audit, not an audit or or just the Csd money, but a specific audit for Measure 2. And this is important because we want to make sure that people feel comfortable about how the Csd is responsible for spending money with Measure and F. We completed a hundred 10 projects on budget and on time.

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Natalia Shorten: It’s it really was a remarkable effort, and it really accomplished a lot.

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Natalia Shorten: Next.

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Natalia Shorten: this is the difference. This is how we got to the partial tax rather than a bond, because a partial tax, even though it’s slower.

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Natalia Shorten: is cost less. And you get a hundred percent of the money back, whether it’s a bond measure or a bond mixed with partial text?

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Natalia Shorten: Not at all. It’ll be bad.

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Natalia Shorten: So if you were to go after 31.5 million dollars measure, including bonds. It would cost you 44 million, and you would get 20.

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Natalia Shorten: That’s how much it costs to operate about.

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Natalia Shorten: So that’s why we listen. And the the public spoke out that we’ve had meetings, and they said, No, we want a parcel.

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Natalia Shorten: We get 100% of the money back in this community every penny is spent in this community. It cannot be spent anywhere else. Every dollar we give benefits, our community only

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Natalia Shorten: next. These are just some analysis of that very fact that that shows over 20 million dollars is what you get for a 31.5 million dollars bond measure and 31.5 million dollars is what you get with a purse.

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Natalia Shorten: and you have on your seats and in front of you information about how we got here from E and F and D, and operating budget, and then measure G,

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Natalia Shorten: so these are some questions that we already received. So what would the approximate first year out of pocket costs be for the proposed project for a parcel tax? Or, if it was above so, $1,800 a year for partial tax and $2,800 a year for a bond. Anybody that wants to spend $1,000 more a year. Please raise your hand.

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Natalia Shorten: Okay.

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Natalia Shorten: there. There were no hands just for the zooming does the? There was one hand. Who was it?

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Natalia Shorten: So we’d like to get the difference for you.

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Natalia Shorten: so does the Csd. Have any funds left after the 2 bond measures E. And F. Have expired. I understand that we have some sources of money, but not enough to make the necessary repairs and improvements in the in the large part, and those bonds have expired. Is that right? Yes, the bonds have expired, and we still have parcel tech D for maintenance and operations budget. But that is not adequate to cover infrastructure projects. In measure. E.

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Natalia Shorten: How much is the 31.5 million l. Is allocated to the creek. I saw something that said half of the amount of the creek is allocated to the creek. Is that true? No approximately half of the dredging cost, or 5 million out of the 10 million will be allocated towards creek and watershed restoration that 5 million dollars we’re hoping to turn into

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Natalia Shorten: hundreds of millions of dollars of grant money and support. That’s what it would cost to do the Creek and to do the Restoration. But there’s so much interest and so much support for that, and so much money in the State and Federal levels that we need to go after it, but we have to be very conscious, and it’s never been better a better time to do that.

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Natalia Shorten: And then there’s been some confusion about how the funds will be allocated. How can I, as a community member, see the details of the projects in which the funds will be allocated. Please go onto the website and look at all the information on the website. Also all the boards here, starting right here, going all the way around, shows you every all the projects, all the funding broken down by locks. Levies, will go into creek so that you can see where the money is going and how important it is for all of these areas.

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Natalia Shorten: More questions over the next 21 years I will have paid 50,000 for to do partial tech. If I do my math correctly. If this were a bond, that means I would be paid almost through 70,000 bonds cost more money.

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Natalia Shorten: Yeah. yeah.

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Natalia Shorten: Jan Funds cost more money

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Natalia Shorten: overall, due to the interest and reporting cost approximately 40%. That was calculated by both our municipal finance expert and resident engineer

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Natalia Shorten: sitting right here, who did an amazing job of communicating and analyzing where all the money is going and where we are. and that that should be available on our website, too. If users

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Natalia Shorten: and I was told that parcel taxes are ongoing does measure G ever expire?

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Natalia Shorten: Yes, measure G expires in 21 years. We did that intentionally. You can have measures. Go on ongoing like measure D, the maintenance. But it is not we chose specifically. Do not continue. If we’re trying to get infrastructure projects done.

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Natalia Shorten: So then we can continue to use measure D to fund the maintenance of those improvements and all the other improvements that we have already.

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Natalia Shorten: So that Measure

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Natalia Shorten: D is ongoing for maintenance purposes. This is to keep us alive and keep us going into the many, many more years.

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Natalia Shorten: Why can’t we just focus on one big project like the lack repair and raise funds for those that project in in the short term? Well, focusing on one project only ignores the full scope of infrastructure repairs needed across the community. And II don’t want to do this every year for another project. It’s not gonna work that way. It does. It’s not sensible, and it costs more money. Time is money. So we don’t. You know, everything costs more down the road.

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Natalia Shorten: We forgot sticks before I move on.

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Natalia Shorten: Yay.

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Natalia Shorten: any others.

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Natalia Shorten: No, you just you skipped over sick sick because there is a lot of governmental money for climate change and blood control. I understand that if we ask the partial time

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Natalia Shorten: that commits some money to the creek, we have the potential to be eligible for government matching. Is that right? Yes, we’ll be eligible for grants and government mansion. There’s no guarantee, but we just got the grant for 177,000. We hope to get another grant specifically for restoration. We’re in the process of investigating, purchasing the Leveroni property

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Natalia Shorten: and having that funded through a grant and through a multiple agency, so that we can restore a hundred service acres of area into tidal marshland right before our community, right behind our D Mmo. That would be one area. Another area is the area on the opposite side of the creek all the way up in the month of mouth of the creek that is presently owned by the county. We’re in and scheduled for restoration, and you can see a lot of this on the board from the conceptual

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Natalia Shorten: flight control projects. That’s on the board. Get back.

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Natalia Shorten: and I think, and then a couple more. This is a question for Bill, you, Fred, and we’ll be on in a minute. So he can answer that due to the parcel, tax, and bond measure, restrict what we can spend money on. In other words, is the CST limited to spend money on what’s identified in the parcel tax measure?

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Natalia Shorten: And the response is, yes, and Bill can answer that in a little bit after I’m done with these questions he’ll be

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Natalia Shorten: number 10.

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Natalia Shorten: Are there differences in accountability for stated uses of the funds between the bond issue and a special tax. In other words, why do we, the in the community, know the funds will be used as expected, and yes, we have

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Natalia Shorten: instituted into the resolution and into the ballot measure that we are responsible for having an oversight committee and having an independent audit. This is the same thing that you would have for the bond. But we’re saving a lot of money and what we, and because of that, the the resident involvement that we’ve always traditionally had here. We know that we’ll be able to stay on track. We did for the last 20 years with 2 bond measures and a partial tax, and we wanna continue that effort?

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Natalia Shorten: And then how much of the proposed

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Natalia Shorten: tax increases are to balance our typical annual budget, and how much is for non-incurring special projects, such as lack of care and plans.

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Natalia Shorten: None of the money in our present budget is adequate to do any of the major projects. Infrastructure projects that are covered under measured people.

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Natalia Shorten: That’s basically

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Natalia Shorten: the Csd presentation of how we got here, where we think we need to go. And what we’d like to do is and see if we can get Bill, you, Brad, on

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Natalia Shorten: to add, to give a little discussion about the municipal financing.

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Bill Euphrat: Okay, Bill, you should be on. Can you hear us? I’m on. I can hear you.

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Bill Euphrat: la! I’ll introduce myself first. My name is Bill. You, Fred. I’m a

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Bill Euphrat: registered municipal consultant, and I’ve owned my own municipal finance consulting firm since 1989, and I’ve been in the industry since 1980.

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Bill Euphrat: I was first retained by the district in 2,001

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Bill Euphrat: and helped it plan and implement the measure. E and F. Melar response. So

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Bill Euphrat: Vince has really already answered question 9. So Vince asked me to give a broad oh, general description of the differences between funding your projects

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Bill Euphrat: with a parcel tax versus bonds. And so that’s what I’ll do. I think

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Bill Euphrat: a parcel tax is a

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Bill Euphrat: here as you go funding mechanism

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Bill Euphrat: tax, but payers pay annually. The government agency accumulates the money, and when sufficient expends it on capital projects or current expenses, such as maintenance.

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Bill Euphrat: The authorizing resolution determines what the money can be spent on the measure. Gtax is.

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Bill Euphrat: as Vince has said, is solely

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Bill Euphrat: for marine infrastructure, capital projects, and the other capital projects

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Bill Euphrat: that were identified in the slide.

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Bill Euphrat: If an agency can’t accumulate a sufficient amount

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Bill Euphrat: on a pay-go basis to construct projects when needed.

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Bill Euphrat: It can sell a bond issue and pay the amount back over time with interest.

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Bill Euphrat: That interest depending on the rate, as Vince has said, can add approximately 40%. To the amount of taxes needed.

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Bill Euphrat: but the benefit of raising all of the needed capital upfront makes the extra cost worth it to some agencies, especially those with exceptionally large upfront capital costs.

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Bill Euphrat: The district asked me to review its marine infrastructure project last summer with the consulting engineer’s input, I created an expenditure cash flow

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Bill Euphrat: because 8.9 million was projected to be expended. In the first 2 years I suggested a combination of bonds for these initial projects, and paygo for the balance of the expenditures.

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Bill Euphrat: but because bonds and the added cost of bond interest

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Bill Euphrat: bonds more expensive. The board rejected bonds and decided on a plan with lower annual taxes. As Vince has explained.

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Bill Euphrat: Now, the upside is obviously the lower cost to the residents. but the downside is that the Board will have to delay some projects to accumulate sufficient funds to implement.

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Bill Euphrat: and this very likely will increase the overall cost of the improvement plan.

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Bill Euphrat: But a 21 year projection is very long. and many unknown future factors other than inflation could affect the final cost.

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Bill Euphrat: So that’s that’s the bird’s eye explanation of the difference between bonds and paygo taxes. and a parcel tax is a paygo tax. It has no bond authorization

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Bill Euphrat: Vince. I gave it back to you and glad to take questions when it’s appropriate.

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Natalia Shorten: So we’re gonna we’re gonna take questions now. So and we’re gonna bring the mic to you. So the Michael Comey about the 3 min, please.

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Natalia Shorten: Anybody here.

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Natalia Shorten: The city of Nevada is participating, and has been paying for directly in Nevada Creek. But there’s small areas, big Flood. And so part of the problem has been them that

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Natalia Shorten: zone, one blood control district who is overseeing our watershed, and we pay $19 a year in taxes toward the flood control district on one is not. And they went after a $47 a year tax to help them partner for getting more money, and it failed.

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Natalia Shorten: And part of the reason it failed is because we didn’t educate and inform people they were, miss. They were misinformed. They thought that triple a the paid front secured tax would pay for it, and it has nothing to do with that. So what’s really important is that part of the the bottom strategic planning group

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Natalia Shorten: is about partnering with the city, the County State Post, Conservancy, Audubon society all these agencies and Caltrans will be part of that, and Caltrans, being raised, is going to help the flow

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Natalia Shorten: of the creek itself, and that’s an independent project that is doing that has been approved and funded to to do that. So we’re really excited about the opportunity

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Natalia Shorten: to see the creek less restricted I get by 37 less of bloody, and but it’s still going to. And so we have to be prepared for that. So your your question was, why isn’t the city up at the bottom responsible for the entire creek? Because they’re not the only ones in the watershed? And and there’s multiple agencies involved, but none of them have money unless we pull together and go after bigger money.

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Natalia Shorten: Next question.

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Natalia Shorten: hey, Vince? My my question has to do from a historical perspective those of us that have lived here a long time. We see that measures de and F have been retired off of our property tax bill.

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Natalia Shorten: Well, how come we’re in such bad shape in this community with the infrastructure. If we just retired a 20 year bond that was supposed to address all these problems. And if, in fact, we’ve been so successful

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Natalia Shorten: taking care of all these things, then how come we’re in the mess we’re reading. I wouldn’t call us in a mess. I would call us in a planning mode to help control and maintain this community. The infrastructure repairs that we did. We did a hundred 10 projects

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Natalia Shorten: we spent. We only got half of the money, 5 million out of 8.9 that we spent.

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Natalia Shorten: We only receive 5 because they were bonds, and because of all the interest cost, unfortunately, but we still completed every single project that we listed in measure enact, with the exception.

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Natalia Shorten: With the exception of the Greek extensions, the Greek extensions were not done because of land ownership issues, and the money was paid back to everyone that made the $3,000.

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Natalia Shorten: They were paid back and they called, We’re done.

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Natalia Shorten: So we have. We have. We have a lot of projects. They’re listed right behind you. The first board right behind you is listing all 110 projects and their location and the source of funding.

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Natalia Shorten: We. I thought we did a very good job, but we cannot keep up with and replace the locks. We can only maintain that we, the south block, had no pilings. We spent $800,000 putting micro 5, 36 micro files in the south block to keep it stabilized so it wouldn’t continue to sync

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Natalia Shorten: the North thought we did replace a lot of elements, but they were very old, and we didn’t have adequate funding to do the infrastructure replacement that this measure is, for

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Natalia Shorten: that’s the difference. It was a maintenance project focused on dredging and levy work. The lock work that we did was minimally done, because whatever money we could save from the other projects for levy and dredging we spent on the lot.

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Natalia Shorten: and that’s as far as we could get. But you can see the project list there.

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Natalia Shorten: Next question. Hi, my name is Shannon.

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Natalia Shorten: Okay, you hear me? Okay. My name is Dan Pickering, and I live across the way and live through the Harbor Town Hall.

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Natalia Shorten: and I’ve been here about 12 years.

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Natalia Shorten: Love it here, and I’ve always been happy to pay my taxes.

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Natalia Shorten: So, anyway, in September. When I got the flyer, I was

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Natalia Shorten: very questionable about what was going on. Little by little I learned quite a bit about.

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Natalia Shorten: our parcel taxes, those of us that are in condos. In the town homes we pay the same amount as the people in houses.

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Natalia Shorten: and I want to to tell you that we have very, very small parcels and comparison.

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Natalia Shorten: II have a whole presentation. I’d love to to say the whole thing. But obviously I’m not going to be able to address everything to me. But I do want to tell you that

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Natalia Shorten: for me. I’m a retired nurse, but the other. On the other hand, too, I would like for the board, and the Board knows

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Natalia Shorten: we we need for you to really take a look at that.

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Natalia Shorten: Thank you.

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Natalia Shorten: What they’ve done in those 12 years is significant.

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Natalia Shorten: So I am very thankful for what they’ve done over the 12 years. And I really appreciate little.

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Natalia Shorten: Okay. Do to the other woman’s point, though.

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Natalia Shorten: Why isn’t this text?

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Natalia Shorten: it’s not legal to face. It has some property values. I didn’t check into that when you asked me originally, and will you, Brad? You might. You might be able to talk to that. But more, our our lawyer said. We cannot do that.

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Natalia Shorten: Unfortunately. It’s not a way the taxes are written to allow us to do that.

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Natalia Shorten: So any other questions. And and I just wanna clarify with regard to benefits, taxes.

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Natalia Shorten: This measure is about the whole community.

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Natalia Shorten: not just smaller big houses, but all houses, but all houses use our we want to make access, we’ll only do it for all we want to use all our open spaces. We want to connect to the water and improve the water for everyone, not just big houses, all houses.

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Natalia Shorten: everything for one community. And we need to be unified about being one community and benefiting from being together.

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Natalia Shorten: So next question here.

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Natalia Shorten: my name is Valerie. I live in the town homes. I’ve been here for 13 years.

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Natalia Shorten: Community.

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Natalia Shorten: can everyone hear me? Okay, yeah, I could piggyback on Jan’s. Comment.

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Natalia Shorten: what is the reasoning?

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Natalia Shorten: when when we started this process, we investigated all all aspects that we could possibly do, and we looked at bonds and benefit taxes, and because of the general nature of all the improvements, and how they improve everyone’s pro property, everyone’s access, everyone’s protection and safety. We thought it was most appropriate to a part of tax uniformly to the community

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Natalia Shorten: try it again. Nope, white, try it there.

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Natalia Shorten: There you go. Okay. How did we learn of that number.

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Natalia Shorten: and whether or not there are lower cost alternatives. How much money have you spent with alternative engineering plans to to this to reduce costs.

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Natalia Shorten: The the costs that were evaluated were done with an engineering firm that had the most experience in this community on all the projects that were done over the last 20 years, going to another engineering firm that had no

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Natalia Shorten: information about this community would not be beneficial and cost a lot of money. We didn’t see the reason for that. We wanted to get a general assessment of every project that we needed to have done in the next 20 years what the cost would be. I don’t think the cost may or may not be adequate, because the cost

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Natalia Shorten: of money continues to go down, and the cost of construction continues to go up, so we buffered it a little bit and be able to accommodate that. We want to complete all the projects that we can.

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Natalia Shorten: and we did not go to other engineering terms. We spoke to other people and the the contractors, the people that did our dredging. Just recently we had meetings with them about what does it do to take to make it less expensive? And they had some common sense responses. They said, Oh, don’t put us on a limited dredge by cubic charge. Don’t limit it.

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Natalia Shorten: Let us just stretch whatever we want, and then you pay for it. Yeah, that sounds good, but it’s gonna cost money, too much money for the district. So we have talked to other engineers because we’ve interacted with engineers, multiple times and contractors. More importantly, I get a lot of information from engineers. But I get better information from contractors to verify that. What’s it really cost? What’s gonna cost people to do this, what’s gonna do that? And so with our experience, we feel and done the best we can to assess what we need.

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Natalia Shorten: we need to hear from other people as well. Nope, every looking at this.

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Natalia Shorten: Oh, Hi! My name is Madeline Montobio. I just wanted to make a statement on a Thank you, Vince and the Board for all the extensive work that you do. It’s just amazing. Thank you so much. Also, most of the we don’t have Homeowners Association do. According to my knowledge, we have no home owners do and they charge $450 a month

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Natalia Shorten: for the Condo fees, so that, for all the all that we get for $1,800 is pretty amazing.

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Natalia Shorten: Thank you.

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Natalia Shorten: Cassandra. And I’ve been here 14 years. My question is.

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Natalia Shorten: once you mention that it’s a multiagency project.

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Natalia Shorten: I cringed because, on one hand, we have hired writer according to the slide, but, on the other hand. They don’t usually kind of agencies here in bed with don’t have cost containment as a priority. So what is the Board gonna do to try to move the project forward, as they have all their meetings after meetings after meetings.

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Natalia Shorten: Whip, can you hear me?

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Natalia Shorten: Question? Couldn’t hear the question. Okay, I apologize. The question that was asked was with a multifaceted project.

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Natalia Shorten: how do you with members in the partnership that don’t tend to have a control of how much they want to spend. How does the CST expect to control or help maintain minimal funding from this community service district?

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Natalia Shorten: And I think the answer to that is, we don’t have a lot of money, but we have enough money to be a partner, and we’re gonna seek out the agencies that are successful in dealing with the Grants. The Grant writer we have was the county engineer for the Fund Control district of this area, very knowledgeable and very well connected to many people, and he’s working with them, and we will be participating. We wanted to start a committee

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Natalia Shorten: grant committee that would help bring people from the community that would be interested in helping us manage that approach. So we will do everything we can, and listen to the community about how to contain that amount of funding. So it’s controlled. We only have a certain amount of money. We have a lot of participation that we want to see from others much larger pockets with much, much more grant successful experiences.

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Natalia Shorten: That’s our goal.

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Natalia Shorten: I would like to make a statement. But it’s going to take probably 6 min.

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Natalia Shorten: Yeah, super question.

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Natalia Shorten: Let me introduce myself.

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Natalia Shorten: My name is Leela Tweed, and I was your past president of the Csb. In 2,001 journey to you.

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Natalia Shorten: here use. Use this.

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Natalia Shorten: My name is Lisa Tweed, and I was your past president of Csb. In 2,001, when we passed our 2 bond measures in parcel tax.

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Natalia Shorten: and I recognize a lot of you. I sat down about 3 weeks ago and decided to take a hard look at all the materials I had received

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Natalia Shorten: about the new proposed parcel chat. Was I gonna vote. Yes, or was I gonna vote for that?

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Natalia Shorten: After spending an afternoon reviewing all the materials I knew some of the, and information was a complete. And how could I decide as a resident if I wanted to vote? Yes or no? What is the most important asset in our community? The locks, for sure.

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Natalia Shorten: I’ll be back to them.

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Natalia Shorten: One of my neighbors asked me. I don’t even know the difference between a parcel tax and a bond

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Natalia Shorten: today. and this is how I explained it to them.

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Natalia Shorten: When you bought your house in Bell Marquis, you went to the bank. You got a loan or a big purchase item, you pay your mortgage every month, including interest of the loan and the bank that the bank gave you. That’s a bond

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Natalia Shorten: for large expenditures, a parcel tax that can be compared to maintenance on your home. You need to paint your home, clean the gutters, anything that’s smaller expense, and take care of the upkeep.

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Natalia Shorten: And why is that difference important? If we just have a parcel tax, we get smaller amounts of money coming into the community. But we need to wait many years until enough money gets accumulated in our bank account to do a large project.

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Natalia Shorten: Think of it this way! How many years would it take you to save money in your bank account until you could purchase a house without going to the bank

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Natalia Shorten: back to the Locks.

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Natalia Shorten: because it is our most important asset. We need a bond measure. So we have a large amount of money available to do a large project.

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Natalia Shorten: The log project is estimated at 6 million dollars.

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Natalia Shorten: We can’t let that project wait for maybe 8 to 10 years before we have enough money in the bank to begin that work.

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Natalia Shorten: We saw the pictures.

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Natalia Shorten: This is a concern I have about the method they are proposing in measure G. Of merciless attack.

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Natalia Shorten: How much money does govern keys get each year in the form of existing parks so tax known by measure fees.

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Natalia Shorten: Our parcel taxi cheer units is $500,000 to continue doing marine maintenance. Brand county gets the $600,000 each year to fund our operating budget.

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Natalia Shorten: That’s the office staff and costs associated with running a district.

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Natalia Shorten: Those 2 incomes give us the steady stream of 1.1 million dollars 1.1 million dollars each year. Every year.

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Natalia Shorten: In the past 20 years we have completed large bond projects funded with our 2 expired bond measurements.

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Natalia Shorten: and those taxes are no longer on your bill.

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Natalia Shorten: only the parcel tax. There’s your BD. Now we are faced with committing more of our money to spend in the form of measure measure. G. The proposed parcel tax.

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Natalia Shorten: It is already on the ballot for yes or no, and it’s very important for you to vote.

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Natalia Shorten: Now. Why am I in favor of a notebook?

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Natalia Shorten: When I was looking at all the materials that had been delivered to me. I couldn’t figure out why, in 20 years the price of maintaining the community went up 4 times from what we needed 20 years ago.

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Natalia Shorten: Did something change? I know prices have gone up, but not that much.

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Natalia Shorten: When you can’t figure out exactly why they are asking for so much monthly. It’s up to us the residents to validate the information we have received.

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Natalia Shorten: That means digging deeper into the details. That’s what I’m trying to do

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Natalia Shorten: to make sense of all the facts and figures, and come up with what might be a better solution for what we presented in measure D. Or maybe this is the solution. Or maybe it’s a combination. I just can’t figure it out.

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Natalia Shorten: So what is the solution?

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Natalia Shorten: I’m working with another resident to make a very detailed spreadsheet to validate each item in the budget detail by detail, and come up with a recommendation. This takes time because information is hard to get when you need to ask the office in writing under the Information Act and wait 15 days to get your answer, the Board can work and authorize access to the accounting department to help us find answers you work with.

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Natalia Shorten: Is there a hurry, is it not? Really? We have our coming into the district each year every year.

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Natalia Shorten: What will measure G. Cost me over 21 years.

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Natalia Shorten: over 21 years each of you will have paid $50,000, measured $50,000.

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Natalia Shorten: This seems unreasonable to me until we have all the facts and figures, and it’s clear what we’re going to be paying for. Let’s vote no on Measure G, until we, as residents, validate the need for all the money. It’s our obligation to ourselves.

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Natalia Shorten: The goal is to make sure we have a clear picture.

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Natalia Shorten: Does the new funding match the expenses forecasted for the next 21 years?

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Natalia Shorten: The best way you can help would be to talk to your neighbors and ask for a no vote

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Natalia Shorten: until we can wrap our arms around what happened in the past 20 years, and what we can expect in the next 20 years. Please vote no. And give us time to meet.

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Natalia Shorten: Thank you.

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Natalia Shorten: has anyone done a bathroom renovation 20 years ago, I know and I’m in the process now of doing another bathroom renovation. Same bathroom.

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Natalia Shorten: say, you know, just needed the same toilet. The same is costing a lot more money, and I think we all know that the cost of construction is gone out of control. And so just saying that over 20 years it’s $50,000, remember, that’s over 21 years. And and look what our property value did over the last 20 years. And this is because we have a plan.

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Natalia Shorten: When you have a plan. And you have a spending that it’s gonna maintain this community. It’s really important to maintain your value.

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Natalia Shorten: This is a community that is really

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Natalia Shorten: connected to the water, to the watershed. We live on the water, we want to stable it on the water, so that we can keep our water unlike Beha that lost their water. They have no lot. We have a lot, but we could lose a lot. We don’t want to lose a lot.

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Natalia Shorten: But the the rationale of thinking you need to wait 10 years for money is not correct. If the if there, if we’re getting 1.3 million a year, and it’s a 6 million dollar job, and that’s you cannot do everything at once. You have to do piece by piece, and you have to do the electrical. Then you have to do the other part, and you have to replace against you cannot just get a permit to replace the entire block, because you’ll know you won’t. We won’t get it permit

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Natalia Shorten: from the agencies, but if we do it carefully and thoughtfully, and we maintain it, and replace piece by piece right now in order to just get get a limiting switch. We have to go online and look through Iowa garages to get eliminating

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Natalia Shorten: the the the mechanisms are still functioning, but they’re so old that we can’t find them anymore.

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Natalia Shorten: So we really need to do this, and we need to do it soon, but I don’t see how you could do it in less than 3 to 4 years. In that way you would have enough money to do it, but I didn’t think it was appropriate from hearing from the community in general that no one wants to pay more than they have to pay for what we need to do.

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Natalia Shorten: All the information is, I’m in this link also

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Natalia Shorten: Well, my name is Matt. I’ve been here 16 years.

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Natalia Shorten: We are also part of the Neighborhood alliance who is going together to help get information on these and community and just one of the responses to require comments.

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Natalia Shorten: we’re devouring to make sure everybody can answer those questions. That’s really why we can get it in terms of information available.

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Natalia Shorten: There’s a tremendous amount of information already on the Csd website.

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Natalia Shorten: and the projects are are detailed to the level that make sense at this stage before the third picked up. And I definitely urge everybody to look at the Csd website.

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Natalia Shorten: Because that information is available today. So there’s no mystery in that it’s it’s readily available won’t require a request for the Freedom of Information Act with my understanding and at the same time the reason that we pull this together is we wanna make sure that we’re listening carefully to the community and every all the members isn’t so. If there’s questions that aren’t being answered, that’s one of the reasons why we have a series of mobile groups.

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Natalia Shorten: and so we endeavor to continue that.

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Natalia Shorten: And however you’d like to provide us with your questions. You’d like to have

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Natalia Shorten: conversations in our homes. I mean, we’re just. We’re just neighbors, like you all are, and we decided to lean in and have a hold of us leads. And while we’re not members of the Csd working, making sure that we care about value and love.

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Natalia Shorten: what is the type of funding things.

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Natalia Shorten: Maybe

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people in the world.

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Natalia Shorten: I’m Victoria Park, and I’ve been moving in the regular world

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Natalia Shorten: 37 years, and I’m part of the Csd

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Natalia Shorten: planning back 20 years ago, and I understand all the issues about. But I wonder who is going to make decisions about the priorities

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Natalia Shorten: and

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Natalia Shorten: but what I’m hearing, and what I’m afraid of is that this issue with raising this money.

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Natalia Shorten: maybe raising this money to grants, might become more of priority.

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Natalia Shorten: What we know we can take care of.

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Natalia Shorten: That’s my role main issue. And I also feel for the benefit assessment that.

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Natalia Shorten: And I don’t think that’s fair.

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Natalia Shorten: That’s great.

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Natalia Shorten: Thanks. Yes, please, thank you.

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Natalia Shorten: Melon Glass, and I’ll be here 80 years now.

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Natalia Shorten: I think it might be too far away.

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Natalia Shorten: Don’t do that right enough to it.

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Natalia Shorten: Can you hear me?

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Natalia Shorten: Okay, I’m just telling glass. And then we’re about 10 years.

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Natalia Shorten: we all technically find a million dollar Valley.

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Natalia Shorten: It’s a 2 bedroom, actually a 3 bedroom funded Indian side.

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Natalia Shorten: 1590 square feet.

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Natalia Shorten: Homeowners. Dudes, I think. Just got raised to $850 a month.

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Natalia Shorten: Yeah, it’s a wonderful time

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Natalia Shorten: they keep it inaccurate.

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Natalia Shorten: They have, I would bet, not 5%.

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Natalia Shorten: And the stuff that they have to do that we do here.

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Natalia Shorten: There’s other religious associations. We had a community services district. and then

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Natalia Shorten: I find it to be just a bargain. And I think we need to do this work.

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Natalia Shorten: then you need to get to some of the online questions, sort of wrapping it up here any more questions out here for people that have not spoken.

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Natalia Shorten: Yes.

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Natalia Shorten: that word.

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Natalia Shorten: Oh, geez! Not working.

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Natalia Shorten: Chris, is it on you? Wanna

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Natalia Shorten: try that? Try it again. Yes.

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Natalia Shorten: further away. Come up here. You just need to be closer. I’m sorry about 30 million.

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Natalia Shorten: Try it down like. Try it again, Fred, again, you know just the buttons.

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Natalia Shorten: but just give them the mic. See if it works.

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Natalia Shorten: so don’t put it to your mouth. That’s what killed it. You need to hold it away a little bit.

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Natalia Shorten: Let’s share the second patient system. Come on up

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Natalia Shorten: direct. Yeah.

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thank you. Next.

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Natalia Shorten: yeah, yes, it is

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Natalia Shorten: No taxes are tax deductible.

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Natalia Shorten: No taxes are tax deductible.

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Natalia Shorten: No taxes, bonds, or parcel taxes are tax deductible.

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Natalia Shorten: only your property tax up to $10,000.

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Natalia Shorten: You’ve already mentioned it. Thank you. We’ve already had 3 min. I’m sorry, but we need to hear we have a lot of people on Zoom that we have to get to. So, Margo, please grab the mic, and let’s go. So I’m gonna start anything.

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Natalia Shorten: same amount of time.

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Natalia Shorten: And it’s wrong.

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Natalia Shorten: Thanks.

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Natalia Shorten: I moved into the community

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Natalia Shorten: Element.

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I’m happy to be here.

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Natalia Shorten: I really wanted to get involved in the community. And so my husband and I took part in

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Natalia Shorten: the neighborhood alliance. And so we helped

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Natalia Shorten: gather the community together. So we thought to come up with the consensus that the best way to

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Natalia Shorten: maintain this amazing land and make sure that we have it

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Natalia Shorten: for all the years we have left here, and I can just say

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Natalia Shorten: it’s incredibly frustrating. And we invite so many people that have a voice for that. We have 5 meetings, 6 meetings and please provide. Input, so we can decide who we want upon.

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Natalia Shorten: Everybody says they want to bond. And now I have.

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Natalia Shorten: I mean they can possibly move aside from the hundreds of hours, maybe close to thousands of hours that we, as neighbors, have put into trying to get everybody on on board to do something to the benefit of the community. It feels really happy

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Natalia Shorten: to have it before vetoed at the last minute, with nobody

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Natalia Shorten: coming to talk to other people trying to get consensus about.

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Natalia Shorten: I would just ignore everybody

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Natalia Shorten: nice, and just talk to each other. plan to get the money that we actually need.

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Natalia Shorten: We’re gonna go on to the zoom. So we have

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Natalia Shorten: Linda Pollock do the levees meet the US. Army Corps engineer standards to be in their program? No, they do not. And, in fact, the State Coastal Conservancy, who just spent millions of dollars building a levy on Belmarke’s 5 between us and the bay to protect us.

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Natalia Shorten: That is also not being a certified levy, but it is a levy that is meets the standards of the course of engineers.

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Natalia Shorten: I will verify whether or not our

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Natalia Shorten: levies. When we do them. We’ll meet the Army Corps of Engineers, but they probably won’t meet fema requirements, because they’re very, very restrictive.

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Natalia Shorten: And even the Hamilton Levy and the Bay levy right now does not meet Fema standards.

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Natalia Shorten: How much will it cost to purchase the levies from the State Coastal Conservancy?

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Natalia Shorten: We’re hoping for 0, and we’re prepared for $10.

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Natalia Shorten: We really don’t wanna pay for it. We have been maintaining them for the last 50 years. So I have all the invoices of all the projects we’ve done, so that we will build them for that, and that should be more than adequate to have a transfer of land. It’s in the process of the government agencies to transfer the land from one governmental agency to another, and so, when they transfer the 8 acres to the

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Natalia Shorten: Marin County open space, which is just between our entry sign and our death dredge disposal site across from Brahma. Morris just passed Bigot. They didn’t pay anything for the transfer of that 8 acres

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Natalia Shorten: we’re we are getting transferred to 41 acres. Because we want to have control over the land. We’ve explained, we cannot spend public dollars on land we do not own. We need to own land if we’re gonna maintain it.

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Natalia Shorten: and they don’t have the ability to maintain.

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Natalia Shorten: I’m trying to scroll through. Just so everyone understands to get to the next person cause. There was a lot. I’m wondering why, legally, you have not joined forces over the past 4 months to create a solution to our collective problem set. Throw directly into the works. Now the vote is in March. I have no idea, only can answer that.

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Natalia Shorten: Yeah. Why don’t you answer it.

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Thank you. Now.

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Natalia Shorten: I don’t spend all my time here in Bill Murray fees.

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Natalia Shorten: I have a place down in the near limits of golf resort, and it does a couple. It has fairly high homeowner space, and we pay them

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Natalia Shorten: and so I’m not here. And when I came back I said, okay. And now I’ll sit down. I figured all the work that was getting done, and it’s good work we. I love a volunteer. We had volunteers during the last time we created everything. They are very important.

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Natalia Shorten: But I left that part of

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Natalia Shorten: participation.

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Natalia Shorten: Because then we’ve done this live a different life.

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Natalia Shorten: So that’s a reason why I didn’t participate. And as I said in my talk, I came back and I just sat down with it. Can I? Am I gonna vote, yes or no.

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Natalia Shorten: And if we do, figuring out, that’s basically

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Natalia Shorten: thank you. And then the board needs to reevaluate the cost with an independent outside from a single engineering firm whose experience in that area is not adequate, does not recognize that prudent management of our community funds or our community. I have just gotten 7 quotes for a kitchen remodel. The top 4 were from flagship firms. The ring.

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Natalia Shorten: the range of the lowest to the highest, was well all over the map. The top was 10 times higher than the lowest.

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Natalia Shorten: Firms do differ and cost and approach due to the scale and operating model. Go back and get 2 more opinions. We have received other opinions we hired, we, we rehired our municipal finance to analyze the financing and the opportunities for financing, whether they were reasonable. We have a lawyer that specialize in municipal financing, and we also just are consulting with Kevin Tweed to look at different

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Natalia Shorten: design build firms that would not only be able to fabricate, but install them at a much better price. And so we have had other experts. Look at this, and we found that it’s been really important that we have experts in the field, not just engineers, more engineers.

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Natalia Shorten: and the engineers we used were the most

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Natalia Shorten: knowledgeable about our community permitting and experiences.

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Natalia Shorten: Okay? So I just went through all the questions online, and I didn’t see any others. So I’m going back to Linda’s second question. We can proceed on that way eligible for government matching now we would, and would we not be eligible whether we do about or parcel tax?

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Natalia Shorten: So, Linda, I’m not sure I understand your question, but we are. We are eligible for government matching now. In fact, the bound. The grant we just received is not matching is a hundred percent given to us without any matching for the parks. What we need to do is go after much larger

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Natalia Shorten: monies for the Restoration project. They do use nature as a part of in solving the problem of our Greek and our blood control.

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Natalia Shorten: So the question is, it doesn’t matter whether you had to bond or partial tax, you still have matching funds. How can the Board address the unfair burden to kind of owners, and oppose funding for the tax.

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Natalia Shorten: The way we can do that is, we have been meeting with them and finding out what benefits we can offer them. Access to the lagoon protection of Re and reaffirming their the

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Natalia Shorten: quality of their levy around their community. So they’re not. Their houses aren’t sinking.

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Natalia Shorten: and all of these things will be part of our opportunity to make benefits for everyone in the community, and

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Natalia Shorten: everyone in the community benefits from everything that’s done in the community, if not solely just for you or me, depending on where you live or how big your house is.

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Natalia Shorten: Our Bfa levies are those that are bmk in the Usaac Federal flood control program.

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Natalia Shorten: Yes, they are in the Blood control program with his wife. Fema gave us a break on blood insurance, and Grandfather did.

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Natalia Shorten: Please don’t stand in front of the camera. Why does Mrs. Tweed have to wait 2 weeks to get the financial information? That seems absurd. It’s not absurd. It’s law, and we. We have been very busy with the budget and many other aspects of operations, and we don’t have a large staff. We have one person, and we just had. We just started last week an Admin person.

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Natalia Shorten: We have also a waterways maintenance person. The Waterways maintenance person is a new position that we instituted because we need waterways and little maintenance projects done so internally. So we’re not paying contractors to do small just to chime in, though financial information is available on the Vm. K website.

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Natalia Shorten: absolutely always moving. We already got there. So let me just scroll down to the bottom

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Natalia Shorten: is the $150 a month per parcel fixed for 21 years. It goes up 2 and a half every year

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Natalia Shorten: that the recommendation from the financial people was 4% and the going rate to increase. And we refused to do that.

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Natalia Shorten: It was too much.

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Natalia Shorten: Yes.

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Natalia Shorten: decades. I think

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Natalia Shorten: I was one of the first escrows to close there, and we’ve been in this watershed for a long time, and we’re so happy to be here, this community. But it’s like a good hotel, California you can check in, and then you never want to.

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Natalia Shorten: And that’s a test to make. Everybody’s been with a lot. I have 2 points to make. I’m in support of the measure. And the first point is, there’s no, there’s no dispute and purpose agreement, and no difference of opinion that we need money.

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Natalia Shorten: I mean, we know we need money. We know we need to fix it. It’s just a matter of how we raise it when we raise it.

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Natalia Shorten: and who makes the decision on the priority allocation. So that’s that’s all we’re talking about. And I, for one, I for one agreement in my second point.

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Natalia Shorten: which is that we have an elected Csd board for our community members, and there’s a big difference between us

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Natalia Shorten: us and them. They’re all over there as as the leader, but there’s 4 more of them, and they spend countless countless hours doing it. I don’t plan on running for the board have my own selfish decision that I’m making not to put in the hours that they put in, not to go into the details, not to have to spend Saturdays, and every night to prepare for these meetings and waiting for the complexities of our infrastructure. I’m selfishly not choosing to do that.

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Natalia Shorten: I don’t have a fiduciary view in this community. I can vote myself separate interest. I can do whatever I want, they do, and I respect that. And because of my choice

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Natalia Shorten: my position is they’ve done the work, they demonstrated. They’ve done the work. I’m gonna support them and we trust them. I’m gonna let them prioritize, because that’s what we elected them. I think they’re doing a hell of a job.

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Natalia Shorten: Did I hear that board members stand up that are doing these

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Natalia Shorten: with scoring the land.

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Natalia Shorten: merging the velocity and Feral Bridge.

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Natalia Shorten: They they have to instrumental and support me in every move of this district, and put in countless hours

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Natalia Shorten: unselfishly. I’d like to ask you, is it? We’d like to say anything

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Natalia Shorten: when this year again we’ve only been able 5 years ago. You must say you can come back on the last person

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Natalia Shorten: now

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Natalia Shorten: I am guilty of. Not

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Natalia Shorten: so, you know I just.

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Natalia Shorten: I have to trust they’ve done their homework, that this is the cost of the project, because if we have to go and do the work they have done for the past and the months we don’t do it. We don’t have the confidence. We don’t have the time to do.

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Natalia Shorten: You know, before we elected these people? Because trust them, we’ll have to keep them now waiting. So basically, you know, I look at that and say, Okay, at the end of the day the numbers do, what is the budget matches? So for me, at the end of this question is, do we believe

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Natalia Shorten: these projects are in our best interest? Okay, we approve. That’s the core of these projects are not that having the locks function properly. So we don’t get all these things, then we have to do the work. So then we have to review it by ourselves.

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Natalia Shorten: So that’s the first question, do you agree? Most products? You don’t. Well, then, you know how to do.

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Natalia Shorten: The second question obviously is, what can you afford? And II agree. Some people here have different means, and others. But for some people it might be a problem. Now, I did look at how we used to pay these. Emf, this is not 1,800 more. It’s 900 more than today. So we used to pay $900 a year for 1,800. It’s not cheap change, but it is relatively

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Natalia Shorten: so, you know. I will tell you what’s what to do. But what I know is that the we’ve got to do the problem and doing the 40

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Natalia Shorten: for a bond. I mean, you’re paying more. If you’re doing 40, I mean that that’s stupid.

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Natalia Shorten: Can we actually do the work. Because, again, that’s their job. Okay, if if they believe they can manage cash flow with the well, then we have to choose. If if they are screwing up by doing that because actually, they’re responsible. Again, that goes back to you have to have a minimum.

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Natalia Shorten: I wasn’t gonna talk.

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Natalia Shorten: I wasn’t. I wasn’t really for this listening to both sides of this thing about before. When I start saying about 40%, okay, if we’re gonna piss away 40% of what we spend, what it’s it’s crazy. Why, we why would we do that?

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Natalia Shorten: So I was actually, I was kinda listening to both sides as well. Then we brought the 40%, that’s you know, and if you don’t trust our board, and I trust, Vince, I trust it with my life. It’s a good guy, and I, and I know he’s never. He’s been on the board a long time along with the rest of them, and they’re good people. I don’t, and they live here. So

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Natalia Shorten: you know, and I trust you, Vince, and I think you’re going to do a good job.

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Natalia Shorten: Here you go.

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Natalia Shorten: By the way, I have to.

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My schoolwork

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Natalia Shorten: can hear you.

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Natalia Shorten: So I just wanna say, this is not a healthy

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Natalia Shorten: to find people that are confident just to do this work

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Natalia Shorten: is a challenge.

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Natalia Shorten: And so just remember, you’re not gonna go down to home depot. Hire a bunch of guys don’t do this. And the legal things here. How you deal with the many agencies.

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Natalia Shorten: It’s not easy. So this, we’re not a house email. It’s it. There’s not that many people this kind of work

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Natalia Shorten: and trust them. Another community that has this kind of need

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Natalia Shorten: for a waterfront community. There is no waterfront community with a lot system. You can go to Foster City.

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Natalia Shorten: I don’t know what Foster City owns are paying, but I guarantee you it’s more than $1,800 year for sure, and they don’t even have a way to get out, and they pull their water with dye, and there’s no fish, and there’s no life they I wouldn’t even swim in that water, and I don’t know what the chemical is scary. We do not do that. We have been able to manage and learn over the 20 years. We’ve learned a lot about how to manage this community.

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Natalia Shorten: and we hope that you know support us, and

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Natalia Shorten: we need to support each other and our whole community. I love this community dearly. I will not leave here. I will live here until the end, and most people feel the same way that I speak to. I’ve never lived in a better community. I’ve never been around it with better people. Thank you.

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Natalia Shorten: It is now 7, 16. We can either end it now, or we can continue.

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Natalia Shorten: Does anyone have anything else? Thank you. We’ll annihilate.

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Natalia Shorten: Park. Was that.